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What spacemarine chapter would be included in Exterminatus? The current choice is kinda leaning towards Ultramarines, but that maybe will change.
Let us discuss the pros and cons of choosing a specific chapter.

I suggest Crimson Fists, a successor chapter of Imperial Fists. They share the same ideology and geneseed, but wear cooler colours. The Crimson Fists do not have any rules next to the Spacemarine Codex, making them fairly good recognizable by everyone. The only downside is that they are rather unknown, and do not have any known special characters. This has a good side too, since fluff can be created for Crimson Fists. There are not too many battles noted for them, so maps can be created just like that, out of the blue.

I guess we should stick to chapters that are known to fight Tyrannids.
I don't know enough about SM chapters to list them myself, please someone do it?

this is a 40k mod, we dont need to follow fluff perfectly, stop thinking about which people are meant to do what, think about what is interesting and looks good, i like the diea of crimson fists, they are a good color scheme, they are not that unknown

Here's a link to the gallery of space marine chapters http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/chapter%2Dgallery/1/

Crimson Fists are better known for their Ork killing than Tyranid fighting.  That's not much of a big deal IMHO.  

I've planned EX in such a way that chapter skin pack will be easy to make.

crimson fists sound good but if your looking for a chapter that fights nids alot i say ultra marines because they have that special unit the tyranid hunters.

It's just worth bearing in mind our tyranids will probably be of the black with red scales variety.

Death Strikes are a very nice looking chapter tbh, if not crimson fists i wud go for them

Then go for Salamanders. They are green.

i would like to see a vanilla marine chapter like smurfs!
but if u absolutly want to hear my oppinion :roll: ... BLACK TEMPLARS!!! :wink:

Salamanders have many heavy weapons, termys and master crafted weapons, not really what the dev team is going for i think

It was partly meant a a joke.
The greatest problem is that the iconography of the Salamanders displays lizards, beasts and fish. Just like the Tyrranids looks like lizards, beasts and fishies, so it would look like they are connected to the Tyranids?  :?

which hive fleet was that one?
anyway if you want to go with varients i say space wolves because they have may different units plus a few special characters

i allways thought my gaunts looked like raptors

I would go with Ultramarines.

i say we go for the Pointy Sticks of the Emperor!  :wink:
http://tsoalr.com/view.php?date=2004-04-08

that would be awesome  :wink:

i say we just have a vote for the most popular:P

atm that seems to be:
Ultramarines
Imperial Fists
Crimson Fists
Dark Angels
some more i cant remeber atm(it is almost 3am:P )

Why not simply make a poll. all this discussion is gonna be is "I think we should do these" "No we should do these" "Well i think the sons of the Emperors bottom"

well if u want the most wanted marine chapters...

Blood Angels
Space Wolves
Black Templars
Ultra Marines
Imperial Fists
Dark Angels....

you could go on and on and never find an end because every one wants another chapter they think would be cooler... i think we need a standart codex chapter and maybe even a new invented one for Exterminatus: RS2

Blood Angels - Red and Black marines VS  Black and Red Tyranids, confusing
Space Wolves - Too far off codex to allow re-skinning
Black Templars - Black is hard to re-skin well and it's been done (Warriors in Black)
Imperial Fists - Yellow Armor!  You gotta be kidding me...  Why not just paint a bullsye on your face?
Dark Angels - Again too far off codex to allow re-skinning
Crimson Fists - Famous Ork fighters *recalls rougetrader cover*
Ultramarines - Boring, overused, but the best of a bad bunch

If someone can cook up a custom chapter that adheres to the codex, sounds exciting, has an applicable colourscheme there is chance we could use it.

can we post our images from DOW?

Ultramarines.

I suggest DeathStrike Marines, they are the same color as crimsons but with a few ncie added touches, theres no background for them so u cnt say ork fighters etc, and they stick to the normal Space Marine Codex

It depends what kind of background you want to set the Gameplay in, If it's a case of Imperials ATTACKING Tyranids then i would say Ultramarines.

If it's Imperials DEFENDING AGAINST Tyranids then I would say the Legion of the Damned (AKA Fire Hawks) providing that you are going to use AI controlled Guradsman.

That's just me keeping to Fluff though, If the Nids are just attacking a planet randomly then you cause maybe use one fo the minor chapters, so that you don't have to make up too much fluff.

like a planet has bin attacked by a hive fleet, the distress call was sent out, the closest chapter came by to help

My vote would be for Ultramarines, and failing that, Black Templars.

No reason beyond my liking the colour schemes.

Ultramarines seem to be in some sort of lead here. Their blue colours will look contrasting against the black and red Tyranids. For some reason, i wanted to hear more detailed explanations to WHY you want a specific chapter. Not just "theyre cool, lets make them"

Is a poll right to set up right now?

I'dd say make the pool about the SECONDARY chapter.
I think every model we got are skinned to be in Ultra-style, so the fastes thing is keep 'em as it is, and release the first beta with them.

But of cause it's quite easy to make another chapter with a re-skin, so the poll is a good idea.
And I'll vote Blood angels because they are so ...bloodthirsty  :twisted:

i am going to vote Blood angels too. the color of the nids seems to be decided, so the angels have the wrong colors. why cannot we use Ordo Xenos? they are taken from different chapters all together! the OX keep one shoulderpad from their old armour painted in their home chapter colors. that could be made selectable, again, as a model attachment. those could be selected where the "spray logo" is selected in the options menu. Old RS had something like that, but it was for clans. This also makes the marines look different, and easier to identify.

i suggested this before, and i know that this is the wrong thread, but can the Shoulderpads be made breakable by extreme force/explosions?

id just like to add, no chapters with there own codexs eg, dark angels, bloody angels, for one blood ravens use alot of assault, which is what this mod is steering clear from, best option is a chapter that follows the Codex:Space marines

what do you mean Blood Angels do not use assault? Their Honour Guard, Chapter master, and Death Company come as assault by standard. And Death Company is the most assault you can get out of a spacemarine.

i meant blood angels use alot of assault, which is not what tis game is going for

this would be really great, but is that possible?

I think it is.
You know, most HL2 mods have grenades showing up on the model only if the player actually have grenades. So I think it's doable - if the Nightwatch is choosen (who are subjects to the OX command)

Deathwatch have been discussed and have been discounted for various reasons. They cant be expanded on due to their small fighting nature, they need a special model as they use a more ornamented armour which could not be reskinned as deathwatch armour is significantly different, especially in the shoulder pads area.

A basic and generic marine chapter was decided on for ease of use.

uhm. I recently saw in CS: Source the upgrade of the skins. Now if you are using the knife the model has the handgun in its side "pocket", and the first weapon on the shoulders. Also, if you have grenades they are show on your belt, according to the type of the grenades (HS, flash or smoke).
What I wanted to say if it's "doable" in RS2 or if it's too hard doing this from scratch.
Anyway, if it's possible, it would be the best chapter choice.

Personally, I would go for the Iron Snakes. Total unpopularity, but easily maleable. The iron color easily distinguishes them, but gives a slight advantage by color. I'm new, so I'm just finding out about RS and RS2.
http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/chapter%2Dgallery/4/ :oops:

What about using the Minotaurs, they're a small chapter and it would be thier luck to run into a Hive Fleet. I believe that they already have can't remember what one though

Well chrome did like the idea od the mantis warriors. Hes got a bob skinned like one somewhere:P

Any of them. Except the rainbow warriors. *shudders*

Although the Emperor's Warbringers looks like a good chapter to use

it's useless to argue about the chapter, it's already chosen: Ultramarines!

i am SOOO going to reskin them!

re-skinning is good, plus if you make a good job of it there may be team (or squad) skins

Useless Statement...


I personally think we should use the "Bringers Of Justice"

For several Facts, These Facts Being.

One: They Are Unheard Of, Yet Have an Inriguing Back Story.

Two: They Are A Notable Chapter, with many famous deeds and heroics in assisting the Imperium.

Three: They Just Look Cool !

Four: They Would be quite Easy to Re-Skin.

Five: No One Is Going to Go Bat-Shit Crazy saying "OMG WHY DID THEY USE BLACK TEMPLARS ZOMG NOOBS"

I am not saying this chapter should be our only chapter, I infact think it should be a Player's Choice, where instead of having set skins, have it optional, for instance..

In the Half Life engines there are different layers Of textures, Certain events and or code can change the layer, this can be seen in Counter Strike, when a player has been shot and killed, his standard player model looks wounded, and or killed. This is done by a texture Change.

Now Using the system named above, we could make it to where when you select a certain Chapter Via Options and player Customization Menu, it would make the players you see only a certain Chapter.

Now while I am guessing VERY few of you understood that large rabble almost from the discovery channel above..

I Edited an Image made my games-workshop  to show the "Bringers Of Justice" colour Scheme.

A Note about the Image link Below: I accept no ownership nor credit for this image, nor is this image in anyway related towards the 40k Exterminatus Team. The Image below was edited by an Independant Graphical Artist.

To View This Image, Click On THIS (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/QuistisTheMaster/BringersOfJustice.jpg) Link.

Well we wont stop anyone reskinning the models if they want a different chapter, but I dont think we are going to go to any great lengths to include others.  As said before, Ultramarines were chosen because they are just normal space marines, so no special rules to take into consideration, and secondly because they have a huge history for fighting tyranids.  Another reason is that they are fairly easy to reskin so people can change them if they want to, unlike very dark or light colours.

I've never heard of BoJ, their colorscheme reminds me of the Mentor Legion though... From a gameplay perspective I dont think I would want to be the one in the white power armor  :wink:

Depends on where the battle is being fought.
Maybe it's in a marble city, in broad daylight. Then white power-armor would be a nice camouflage.  :wink:

ur dissing white as bad camo  :?  ultramarines are fricking bright bue (ultramarine blue to be exact ^^)

`oh yah and if you guys need a texturer/modeler/animator/scripter I'm Here.