40K Source

Time to make your choice, which style of gameplay do you prefer?

Here are links to your choices :
* Exterminatus (http://www.40ksource.com/mode.php?mode=tyranid/exterminatus)
* Synapse (http://www.40ksource.com/mode.php?mode=tyranid/synapse)
* Genestealer Cult War (http://www.40ksource.com/mode.php?mode=tyranid/cult)
* Tree of Life (http://www.40ksource.com/mode.php?mode=tyranid/tree)

Poll closes on the 14th of January 2006.

[edit] Fixed the links [/edit]

gogogo Synapse!

Exterminatus! Because if we can get it to work in gameplay mechanics it will be the most funn and least ripoff of something existing :)

I vote for Synapse because i like to shoot "bots" :lol:

Synapse! Player nids do I have to say any more?

Then why didnt yuu vote for Exterminatus :?

i like to shoot bots and human players and in Synapse theres both  :D

Besides i like Synapse and Extermi but we have just one vote...  :roll:

Synapse takes the lead, but Ex is right behind it ;)

Exterminatus has a big problem: it can hastily became boring and it will not attract, in my opinion, large quantity of players (even if I like it, I think that Synapse will be much better for an online game)

ur underestimating the dev team about exterminatus, there is more to it then the same thing over and over again, open ur eyes a bit people

I don't underestimate them. I just think that if a good bunch of people will play RS2, how much time will they need to "finish" Exterminatus before the devs will come up with other maps and objectives?
Also, I don't think that the devs will use all of their spare time to create new maps :D
That's what I fear about Exterminatus: I think it will go pretty well at the start, and then rapidly fall down, because "I've already done that". Also, we must account up the AI factor. Playing with bots isn't playing with players.
AI will forever be worse than real players :D
So I think that Synapse would be a better playing opportunity. We'll see what mode will win :)

wooo! go exterminatus :D

BTW, how long untill poll closes?

a week aint it i think.

the poll closes on the 14th of january, as written on the main page. So 5 days left.

Ill vote late on the 13th.

voted for Tree of Life
Imps ftw ^^ and also I think that bots have a postive and a negative factor. On the one hand they make the battlefield much more intense so the players feel more like in a huge battle but on the other hand if the bots aren't coded very good then they often become quite useless or too strong.

What, there were actually someone supporting Tree of Life ?  :shock:
It doesn't matter if the bots are useless, as long as they can find their way to be slaughtered at the front.

So Typhoon waits to the last to vote? Someone don't really want democracy me thinks  :wink:

i votet tree, too  :P

I voted for "Synapse", but I liked the idea of being able to play as Guardsmen in "Tree of Life".

Would it be possible to implement Guardsmen into "Synapse" as well?

possibly, but I doubt they would be playable.

Why are people voting for Exterminatus? Do you guys want this to be a pointless coop mod?

exterminatus can say the same bout synapse voters

i still think that its not good if only a few players become tyranids...
i mean just think about this situation:

through coincidence u have suddenly 3 noobs playing nids  against 10-15 marines and nobody knows what to do...
marines will slaughter the nids without problem...

thats why i think it would be better to have the old school mode like player vs. player instead of 4 players vs 1 nid...
if somebody makes mistakes in the tyranid team theirs failures would have much bigger influence on the whole outcome of the round/map than if 1 or 2 of the marines are noobs are players that make mistakes...
even if the nids are privileged in the map by better starting postions or something else...
see what i mean?

for the reference it would never be 3 nids v 10 to 15 marines thats lame and boring, i think it it will be more 5 nids 8 marines, summit along that ratio

blackt, that could also be applied to the Marine players.
I don't see the problem here, I will think that everything will go smoothly (and yeah, even in the "old school" if a team is crappy the other team is going to win)

There were a lot of talk on how to make teams with equal numbers of players on each. I don't think that would be possible, but there were so many suggestions on how to even the teams, that I think we can get down to 2 Marines per Tyranid.

2 marines/tyranid?
that would be excellent!

I voted exterminatus because although synapse sounds alrite at first you then  have to factor in that 1 or 2 space marines versus a tyranid warrior + all the little guants that are following the warrior is never gonna be an even fight, and hardly realistic eg the marines will be slaugthered.
I believe that if you wanted player versus player then we should of voted on a different race, I know I did.
Anyway if the dev's do make the game exterminatus then it shouldn't be too hard to implement synapse as a secondary mode of play or vice versa.

well the problem i see is just this:

if you play in example counter-strike and have a server with 8 vs 8 and 2 players of one team are real noobs that played always quake or something like that before, the other team has a bonus and the other a malus but you can still even it out because there are enough "good" players still in ur team.

but (as posted somewhere) if its like 5 nids against 15 marines and 2 of the nid players are noobs and 2 of the marines the marines players are much much much more in favor than the nids...

i just think it would be easier to balance if its like 1 vs 1 instead of 1 vs 1-5 or whatever... in regard of balancing the players skill´s ...
on the other side i see that it would be easier to balance the players avatar (in form of the thing u represent in the net) if its like 1 vs 3 or whatever...

i dont want to change everything and say: "DO WHAT I SAY!" not only because i´m not in the position to do so. No! It´s because i want to give my constructive criticism on this case  :roll:

The problem could be lessened by having training servers.
By having a Synapse server with just bots on marine side, newbs could get experience before entering the PvP servers.
Same idea is used in Natural Selection to train commanders.

well sometimes it happens that the entire team is noob and nobody cares.
I mean, how much is important to win? A nyd noob will play and die for some time, then he's not a noob more.

of course, the lone marine will die. It's the teamwork that's important here.
As I said, and I will repeat it until the end of the poll, Exterminatus has a great risk to be boring. Bots are bots, they will be nowhere near to real players.

my first point it, synapse would never turn out as 1v5, 1v2/3 at the most, also exterminatus is not boring when u consider the possibiblities, ppl supportitng synapse, all i have seen you say is oo extermy will be borning synapse FTW, open your eyes!, i voted exterminatus, but i still love the idea of synapse you dont see me saying how boring it is, i jsut comment on how to make a good balance

I say it's boring because I think it will be boring. I don't need to like a system to don't vote that. I simply say that, in my opinion, Synapse will be much better, because yes, you use bots, but there is the player behind the bots.
Considering the possibilities of Ex, it will still be boring.
How much time do you think the devs need to create a new map/mission?
And how much time do the player need to get accustomed to the current maps?
In a "hey, I survived more than you" mode you don't have the "standard" adrenaline coming from fighting another player. In a system in wich the winner is simply the one that killed more bots/survived longer, you don't need to be good to win, you just need to know the bot and the map.
So yes, for me, it will be boring.
Reversing your question: do YOU consider the possibilities of Synapse? Just think as a better Exterminatus.

Ps: how many bots do you think a pc can handle? I don't think you'll ever see more than 20 on your screen at once. You should also think to who hasn't got a pc configuration as good as Nasa's. And you should think about the server issues (lag primarily).
I don't blame Exterminatus, I still consider it boring and will say that Synapse is better until the vote ends. Then I'll conform to wich mode wins and try to help develop it as good as I can :D

if you were on the irc channel you would of seen people talking of the possibilities of exterminatus, and yes i do like synapse, i sed that b4 but i prefer extermy

for now, there is a tie. i can see myself playing both modes.
the missions would have to be really different though.
Synapse would be more of a match on one map, one battle, and the Exterminatus would be marines slaughtering their way through hordes upon hordes of nids, to finally claim an objective. And get bonuses on the way there.

WOW I can't beleve this might be a coop mod....

at the moment Synapse is winning by 1 point...

If there should be a draw or something I would transfer my vote for Tree of Life to Synapse coz I'm definitely against a coop mod!

well there will probably a 2nd poll to consider that should there be a tie

I'm glad I'd be gone when the next poll opens, then.
I wouldn't have patience for any more polls.

One more person vote exterminatus, PLEASE!

it would be useless, Synapse is winning by two points!
(yeah)

Hahah! That was you right Vast?

Good to see Synapse taking the lead. I think the major benefit of it is that it is unique. There are plenty of players vs. AI coop mods, but I can't think of any that have players in command of AI. And lets face it, if RS2 doesn't set itself apart from the crowd somehow, it'll likely just blend into the dark background of mods that the community is awash with.

no, I voted really early :D
However I agree with you.

Now that I re-read the synapse briefing it actually sounds quite good.

(BTW when i posted earlier there was one vote difference between Exterminatus and Synapse.)