i dont know how to get proper check
i gave it to both of you and you both said that models are fine

stop this guilty throwing back and forward
it all could be fixed about 4 month before

funny , why didn't i have that info before?
so much time passed and only when this appears in game , everypone opened their eyes?

you surprise me
you are pretty grown up and skilled modeller , so might noticed that texture ruins the model
and now you are trying to convince me that model suck , when you complemented this model ALOT before
model haven't been changed , like , AT ALL

what the heck is that?
you said its good
YOU
SAID
IT IS REALLY GOOD
what the heck?

i like it , wish we had some more content to fill it with

1 hit scream kill and not all the maps are like that


2 nerfs in a row will cause opposite effect
proven via time , really


geneseed of grenade crappers
just sayin

once again
screamer is not prefered choice , but screamer is balanced , VC is prefered choice and cant be called balanced

have you played with it lately?
you still can kill 3 or more nids in a row with it
its not useless its just not popular due to the new classes to explore

suggestion box

1. Smaller icons for the objectives , you might think that making them transparent is enough , but i saw at thunderhawk 2-3 icons blocking half the screen and enemy
2. more often jump for AM (it should be better then stealer because of t2 and such way because lictor is invisible)
3. 1-2 spare clips for termies , as they are not as good as other t3 classes , due to thier inability to fight for long time
4. slower rate of fire of VC , so it will become ranged class mostly and players with vc fex wouldn't have the idea of rushing intoi enemy lines

decreasing health again?

so , from powering up VET to be an actual t2 class we are having the AM powering up for once again say BYE to the VET?

my opinion:
-the bolter of veteran is not needed anymore (not used in the first place , proved by several players)
-the vore still need that collision tweak
-lictor was pain because he could jump alot , you added him ability to jump around even more often and reduced the range. This , what i can not understand.
-new objective icons needs to be reduced in sizes , maybe by2 at the maximum size. and become more transparent(50%maybe).
-terminator can have the additional ammo back(he is not game breaking , with new VC)
-VC must have splash damage (which is not down to zero , the lowest line is about 20), but less overall damage

-wating for the specialist weapons , flamer and plasma , expecting plasma specialist to counter thrope on range in t2


wierd , i killed 2 tyranids (t1 and t2) with AM before i died and could get much points (had about 40)

Can we decide propertly with the AM tier?
it is the 4th or 5th time it will be changing tier
Lets think , DEEPLY about that , is he actually need that?

Compare to VET

Unlike VET he can jump around and kite the CC enemy , shooting with boltpistol and then jumping to the enemy to manage final hits with sword
Unlike VET he can easily escape (even jump to apothecary) or close up with enemy
Unlike VET he can dodge projectiles
Unlike VET he can reach unreachable enemies

VET can slice t1-t2 in close combat easily now
Since VET attached to the ground and doesn't have much speed tweaks , only longer running , he can help dealing with close combat attacks , but really weak againist ranged tyranids

Should i also mention that t2 of nids got artilery / ranged support / ultimate CC with ability to sneak and jump and marines got healing close support / ultimate CC with no jumps / and firepower support
I can see VET being counter for lictor
I can see support marines being usefull at defence and certain situations
but , who is going to counter vore and thrope? Assualt Marine , dodging projectiles and reaching them faster or even jumping around a corner before they notice
and if AM is available for everyone , nids of t2 would be mostly spammed with those guys

my opinion

vore , a bit of ROF increasing
Lictor jumps can become much rare
As i jumped around in cloak all over the place , nerfing the regeneration of energy would do the trick , to have one escape
vet is working as i expected , i even cut some fex during tests
behavior - stay with your mates or sneak around , as expected
you may delete his boltgun and start working with powersword as i think
AM is fine , killing t1 and t2 with similar attitute , melta bombs and longer leap (and change the ARCH of the leap to be more like a strieght line)  would be nice
stealer longer leap (and change the ARCH of the leap to be more like a strieght line)
specialist uhhhhh...well , replacing his boltpistol with spare clips of meltagun would be nice and flamer / plasma for future
Close combat tacts was a bad idea , i agreed with you
Thrope is fine
Fex everyone prefer VC fex , huge amount health and heavy damage on the range
Termies - they can have their ammo back , +2 clips additionaly , they are need it now actually

speed of movement in the air
i already told you
basic energy allows vore to shoot 2 sporemines rapidly and then it slows down
i want you to give enough energy to shoot 3 sporemines rapidly , i already told so
Lack of speed / health / close combat for vore means that most tweaks suppose to touch its main weapon. This beast MUST be in covers and annoy enemy from there
It is not going to OP , trust me , this will help vore to defend self and be as good as thrope.

And cut off tentacle collision of sporemines (AKA MAKE IT SMALLER) so they would't stop by the touch of a pixel

NO
they are AS effective as boltgun
I cal kill same amount of enemies with boltgun or even more , since i can attack from cover. Veteran must be exposed due to the lack of the accuracy and he also got the chainsword , which makes him to be a close combat guy , who suppose to figh close combat race.
just give it a try , put the vet in t1 , im not saying about deleting him as class or anything
just leave him his combo weapons and grenades

increase speed of AM jumps or of jumps in general
so it will tweak him for better , charge up in close combat faster , so enemy wouldn't have much time to react

tweaking vore for 7.15 is more then important , for such thing as 7.15 (public patch , right?) most of things must be tuned
moving veteran to t1 is also important if you are going to move AM to t2
vet and AM should never be in a same tier