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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2006, 07:32:31 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2006, 09:22:51 PM »

I voted for "Synapse", but I liked the idea of being able to play as Guardsmen in "Tree of Life".

Would it be possible to implement Guardsmen into "Synapse" as well?
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2006, 11:20:53 PM »

possibly, but I doubt they would be playable.
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2006, 12:43:31 AM »

Why are people voting for Exterminatus? Do you guys want this to be a pointless coop mod?
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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2006, 04:19:34 PM »

exterminatus can say the same bout synapse voters
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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2006, 05:01:08 PM »

i still think that its not good if only a few players become tyranids...
i mean just think about this situation:

through coincidence u have suddenly 3 noobs playing nids  against 10-15 marines and nobody knows what to do...
marines will slaughter the nids without problem...

thats why i think it would be better to have the old school mode like player vs. player instead of 4 players vs 1 nid...
if somebody makes mistakes in the tyranid team theirs failures would have much bigger influence on the whole outcome of the round/map than if 1 or 2 of the marines are noobs are players that make mistakes...
even if the nids are privileged in the map by better starting postions or something else...
see what i mean?
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2006, 05:29:04 PM »

for the reference it would never be 3 nids v 10 to 15 marines thats lame and boring, i think it it will be more 5 nids 8 marines, summit along that ratio
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2006, 08:17:15 PM »

blackt, that could also be applied to the Marine players.
I don't see the problem here, I will think that everything will go smoothly (and yeah, even in the "old school" if a team is crappy the other team is going to win)
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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2006, 09:57:40 PM »

There were a lot of talk on how to make teams with equal numbers of players on each. I don't think that would be possible, but there were so many suggestions on how to even the teams, that I think we can get down to 2 Marines per Tyranid.
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2006, 11:38:39 PM »

2 marines/tyranid?
that would be excellent!
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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2006, 03:41:18 PM »

I voted exterminatus because although synapse sounds alrite at first you then  have to factor in that 1 or 2 space marines versus a tyranid warrior + all the little guants that are following the warrior is never gonna be an even fight, and hardly realistic eg the marines will be slaugthered.
I believe that if you wanted player versus player then we should of voted on a different race, I know I did.
Anyway if the dev's do make the game exterminatus then it shouldn't be too hard to implement synapse as a secondary mode of play or vice versa.
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2006, 04:03:19 PM »

well the problem i see is just this:

if you play in example counter-strike and have a server with 8 vs 8 and 2 players of one team are real noobs that played always quake or something like that before, the other team has a bonus and the other a malus but you can still even it out because there are enough "good" players still in ur team.

but (as posted somewhere) if its like 5 nids against 15 marines and 2 of the nid players are noobs and 2 of the marines the marines players are much much much more in favor than the nids...

i just think it would be easier to balance if its like 1 vs 1 instead of 1 vs 1-5 or whatever... in regard of balancing the players skill´s ...
on the other side i see that it would be easier to balance the players avatar (in form of the thing u represent in the net) if its like 1 vs 3 or whatever...

i dont want to change everything and say: "DO WHAT I SAY!" not only because i´m not in the position to do so. No! It´s because i want to give my constructive criticism on this case  :roll:
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2006, 05:16:58 PM »

The problem could be lessened by having training servers.
By having a Synapse server with just bots on marine side, newbs could get experience before entering the PvP servers.
Same idea is used in Natural Selection to train commanders.
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2006, 06:09:27 PM »

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f you play in example counter-strike and have a server with 8 vs 8 and 2 players of one team are real noobs that played always quake or something like that before, the other team has a bonus and the other a malus but you can still even it out because there are enough "good" players still in ur team.

well sometimes it happens that the entire team is noob and nobody cares.
I mean, how much is important to win? A nyd noob will play and die for some time, then he's not a noob more.
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I voted exterminatus because although synapse sounds alrite at first you then have to factor in that 1 or 2 space marines versus a tyranid warrior + all the little guants that are following the warrior is never gonna be an even fight, and hardly realistic eg the marines will be slaugthered.

of course, the lone marine will die. It's the teamwork that's important here.
As I said, and I will repeat it until the end of the poll, Exterminatus has a great risk to be boring. Bots are bots, they will be nowhere near to real players.
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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2006, 07:57:21 PM »

my first point it, synapse would never turn out as 1v5, 1v2/3 at the most, also exterminatus is not boring when u consider the possibiblities, ppl supportitng synapse, all i have seen you say is oo extermy will be borning synapse FTW, open your eyes!, i voted exterminatus, but i still love the idea of synapse you dont see me saying how boring it is, i jsut comment on how to make a good balance
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