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« on: April 14, 2006, 08:31:28 PM »

Not a real question but I'm a little bit shocked about the fact, that the next Version of "Garry's Mod" will cost 10$. What do you think about that?
 I hope that other moding teams will not do the same shi* as Garrys Newman. (I will buy the mod but ...)

http://www.steamreview.org/?p=68
http://forum.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=125266
http://forum.facepunchstudios.com/showpost.php?p=1489436&postcount=11
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2006, 09:38:58 PM »

A lawyer will rape the whole mod team while reciting the chapters in the Constitution about copyright fraud.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2006, 09:55:40 PM »

unless GW actually like EX and saw it as a good oppertunity to make A good GW game. but even then they wud suck all the life out of the game
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2006, 10:33:37 PM »

Yeah, if GW buys it, please keep them out of the actual process of game-making.
Far too many scary official GW games out there.
Like Fire Warrior.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2006, 10:37:56 AM »

I'm rather hoping that the whole pay for Garry's mod thing is an extened april fools.  Although under the terms of the Source SDK Valve can legally do that with any mod, just like they did with CS and DoD.

I fear this will only encourage those mod teams who style themselves as "studios" and aim for commercial success above all else.

Thankfully EX is shielded from such action by our blatent trademark and IP infringements  :wink:
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2006, 11:30:18 AM »

that and studio level organisation and commercial sucess are too much effort...
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2006, 01:56:34 PM »

dammit.. and i already made a Studios logo, and a video to replace that *valve* thing for the exterminatus intro..
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2006, 07:51:10 PM »

I am afraid that Garry have shot his own mod in the leg.
It looked as it was evolving into an alternative to SDK, but when you have two equally good options for mod-making, and one is free...
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2006, 10:50:03 AM »

Perhaps not making people pay for EX, but maybe have paying members have full access to EX servers (In other words, people aren't paying for EX, but to maintain a dedicated server for it), and non-paying members having limited access (much the same as Rag Doll Kung-Fu, Steam offers a demo version, and it's great fun!)

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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2006, 11:38:20 AM »

Well, the idea sounds good. But I can't see what scenario it would become relevant in.

Say Ex becomes a small mod with very few servers, like RS.
Then you would like to have access to a server, but would anyone actually pay for access? I would only pay for access to an online game with lots of players.

And then say Ex become a great mod with many players and servers. Then you already got quite good servers from the player community, and will have to invest in really good server equipment to offer something extra.

But maybe it will become relevant. But better ask the community whether anyone wants to pay for a good server before investing money in it.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2006, 11:53:37 AM »

The problem is that it cant legally happen!  Because pretty much every bit of content for the mod is interlectual propperty of GW we are not allowed to charge people for the mod or make any money from it, from what I understand anyway..... unless GW have a sudden change of heart and start supporting mods based on their games   :roll:
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2006, 12:06:20 PM »

GW people have no souls, they cannot support other things that arnt their own money making ideas
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2006, 02:06:41 PM »

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GW people have no souls, they cannot support other things that arnt their own money making ideas

correction, they cannot support anything that isn't guaranteed to make them money... they'll happily steal ideas. Go read the original Starship Troopers, specifically what MI look like in their armour. The original Space Marines look nothing like them, but think about what they've evolved into...
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2006, 03:04:38 PM »

It's because of the way GamesWorkshop has evolved as a business. In the early days those kind of games were (and I guess to some degree still are) very much aimed at a niche market. They were designed by the people how also avidly played them and created them as they saw fit. As the business expanded and the money really began to roll in GW became alot more corporate, a consequence of which was that most new ideas and 'improvements' were influenced more and more by the money men and were less true the designers original concepts. Same thing happens to almost all successful business's. I think it's a shame that, with all the increased funds available, creativity becomes more stifled rather allowed to florish.

What can I say? Money makes the world go round.
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2006, 05:24:22 PM »

Which is why Chaos hasn't gotten new Terminators or a plastic Dreadnought in the last ten years, because people are foolish enough to still buy them. I made a tiny moral stand, and bought the FW Iron Warriors dread, because the metal one is terrible!

I declare a boycott of Chaos Space Marine miniatures until we get plastic Chaos Termies and Dreadnought. Considering how much money GW have pumped into Chaos for the coming campaign, we may just break this money-horse's back...
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